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DragonMasterX Wrote:Maybe you are making your friends feel saved by your words, but you forget who is the one to make the decision of hearing you or not. That person is who saves him(her)self, we are all owners of our own path, no one can change that with neither good or bad words. Advices are posible, yes, but it's up to the 'victim' if he or she will listen.

But unless "we" are there to give the advice, who will they listen to in order to prompt them to change their mind? The wind or the sea? The grass or the stones? If it is my words that prompt my friend to decide to not commit suicide, am I not the one who provided the inspiration to him to live? Did I not save him by being there to give him the words to which he listened and which prompted him to choose life over death?

Certainly the "victim" is the one who holds their fate in such a circumstance, however that is not to say that nothing anybody else does has no impact upon what they do with that. If my words are responsible for preserving my friend's life, I think I am not bragging to say that I talked him into continuing with life. If he says that I saved him, I think it is naught but an honor to him to use his own words with modesty in saying that I saved my friend's life when he was on the verge of self destruction.

I see that you have some skill with rhetoric and some might fall into the fallacy you propose, however what does it matter if they are willing to listen, but nobody is there to speak with them? Their listening is dependent upon my speaking, and so it is not semantically inaccurate to report that your words changed a life when they prompted a person to make a change with their life.

I can speak and they can choose whether or not to listen, but they cannot choose to listen if I do not first choose to speak.
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I Just Wanna Die - by Dreamer - 07-25-2006, 07:11 AM
[No subject] - by Herr Mullen - 07-25-2006, 07:29 AM
Thats why - by Dreamer - 07-25-2006, 07:48 AM
[No subject] - by Herr Mullen - 07-25-2006, 07:58 AM
yes - by Dreamer - 07-25-2006, 08:57 AM
[No subject] - by Herr Mullen - 07-25-2006, 09:10 AM
tear - by Dreamer - 07-25-2006, 09:19 AM
[No subject] - by mowgly - 07-25-2006, 09:51 AM
[No subject] - by blueeyedgabulvo0o - 07-25-2006, 01:22 PM
thanks - by Dreamer - 07-25-2006, 01:29 PM
[No subject] - by Gunter VanCrimson - 07-27-2006, 07:58 PM
[No subject] - by blueeyedgabulvo0o - 07-28-2006, 04:14 AM
[No subject] - by Shadowknight - 07-28-2006, 02:49 PM
[No subject] - by DragonMasterX - 07-28-2006, 11:29 PM
[No subject] - by Wren,Kitsune Dragoon of C - 07-29-2006, 12:06 AM
thanks guys - by Dreamer - 07-29-2006, 11:53 AM
[No subject] - by MISTER BIG T - 07-29-2006, 08:23 PM
[No subject] - by blueeyedgabulvo0o - 07-30-2006, 03:53 AM
[No subject] - by Doctor Zephyr - 07-30-2006, 04:31 AM
[No subject] - by fred_18 - 07-30-2006, 09:44 PM
[No subject] - by MISTER BIG T - 07-31-2006, 09:43 AM
Shut The Fuck Up - by Dreamer - 07-31-2006, 12:20 PM
[No subject] - by rorancrystalwolf - 07-31-2006, 12:24 PM
smart remark - by Dreamer - 07-31-2006, 12:29 PM
[No subject] - by Misty - 07-31-2006, 02:02 PM
[No subject] - by fred_18 - 07-31-2006, 02:46 PM
[No subject] - by MISTER BIG T - 07-31-2006, 11:19 PM
[No subject] - by DragonMasterX - 08-01-2006, 01:01 AM
[No subject] - by Herr Mullen - 08-01-2006, 01:55 AM
[No subject] - by Doctor Zephyr - 08-01-2006, 06:44 AM
[No subject] - by Lukos - 08-01-2006, 07:31 AM
[No subject] - by Doctor Zephyr - 08-01-2006, 08:19 AM
[No subject] - by MISTER BIG T - 08-01-2006, 03:27 PM
[No subject] - by mowgly - 08-02-2006, 02:03 AM
[No subject] - by MISTER BIG T - 08-02-2006, 02:39 AM
[No subject] - by mowgly - 08-02-2006, 04:57 AM
[No subject] - by blueeyedgabulvo0o - 08-02-2006, 05:18 AM
[No subject] - by DragonMasterX - 08-02-2006, 05:46 AM
[No subject] - by mowgly - 08-02-2006, 07:11 AM
[No subject] - by Lukos - 08-02-2006, 11:07 AM
[No subject] - by Nate Hunter - 08-02-2006, 02:17 PM
[No subject] - by DragonMasterX - 08-02-2006, 02:29 PM
[No subject] - by blueeyedgabulvo0o - 08-02-2006, 05:00 PM
[No subject] - by blueeyedgabulvo0o - 08-02-2006, 05:01 PM
[No subject] - by MISTER BIG T - 08-02-2006, 09:09 PM
[No subject] - by DragonMasterX - 08-03-2006, 06:23 AM
truce - by Dreamer - 08-04-2006, 10:43 AM
[No subject] - by blueeyedgabulvo0o - 08-04-2006, 11:00 AM
[No subject] - by Misty - 08-04-2006, 01:16 PM
[No subject] - by aguy - 08-04-2006, 03:39 PM
[No subject] - by fred_18 - 08-05-2006, 04:56 PM
[No subject] - by Doctor Zephyr - 08-11-2006, 05:53 AM