05-26-2004, 09:48 PM
Ugh, bitching and griping, two things I hate.
THe Wind Waker wouldn't have been any better received had this new game come out first -- just as many peopl would have bitched and moaned and complained about the graphics (oh, they look so childish, what's Miyamoto thinking?) as did do so, an possibly MORE would because they would already have gotten a taste of how kick-ass GCN graphics can be for a Zelda game. If you make a change, it's to reflect what the fans want, and where the series is going: and trust me, Wind Waker wouldn't have looked right with realistic graphics.
They didn't change the graphical engine between Ocarina and Majora's Mask because of how well it was received, even if they did essentially eliminate the "adult" Link character Model (no, Oni Link did not use the same character model, just a similar one!) -- they didn't need it, and the story was at least as serious, even if not as epic, as the story in Ocarina or Wind Waker or Trifor... Link to the Past. On the other hand, you have exactly the opposite happen with the first two Zelda games -- there is almost no story in Zelda 1 (Hyrule Legend) while Zelda 2 has a more epic feel, as you get to explore a world, hunt for artifacts/treasures, and even cross the sea in order to finish a quest where your shadow is trying to revive your sworn enemy -- there's an epic story for an Action/Adventure /pseudo-Roleplayer on the NES that most people never learned about.
I'm a big video-game fan, and the games I love, I know a lot about -- the Rockman series (Classic and Battle Network at least, not so much on X or Legends), the Zelda series, and the Final Fantasy series. I can debate Hyrule and Holodrum, Termina and Labrynna and the Great Sea all day, but that won't get us anywhere.
The one game I'd truly like to see right now is a GBA re-make of Zelda 1 that builds on the story, that exposes more to the events than "Many years ago, prince darkness "Gannon" stole the triforce containing power..." (granted, they've made slight changes to the port present on the Collecter's Edition GameCube disk, get a copy of it if you have a chance and consider yourself a true fan of the series).
Link's Awakening was no more "light-hearted" than Link to the Past -- it was less epic, but it still had a serious tone. After all, the Wind Fish seems to be a very powerful creature, and the darkness (Nightmare) that was corrupting its dream (the people, at least, on Koholint Island) seemed to reflect several dark forces from outside realms (Nightmare takes the form of both Agahnim and Ganon during the final battle).
Likewise, Majora's Mask was every bit as serious as Ocarina of Time, possibly even more so, when this kid, this 8-9 (I know Nintendo says he was 10 at the beginning of Ocarina, but I disagree) year-old kid has to save the world (or at least the nation of Termina) and only has 72 hours to do it. Every event you complete is another event you can't, and the only way to succeed in everything is to call on the Goddess of Time and repeat those three days until you omplete them -- and I doubt Link reverse-aged each time he went back to "Dawn of the First Day" -- he probably grew a year or more during that adventure, just helping everyone out that he possibly could (ie: Getting all of the masks).
I cannot say that Wind Waker was not a serious game, even though I have friends of friends (whom I have met personally, mind you) who claim that the graphics weren't the flaw, the story was. Wind Waker deals with the remains of a dying civilisation, most of the "true" Hylians are disappearing (the "true" Hylians being those with pointed ears like Link, Aryll, and Tetra) through interbreeding with the "common" people (those with "regular" human ears, like most people in most of the nations aside from Hyrule and Termina -- don't believe me? Check the official game art!), and also is about the quest to move on to the future, even if it costs the remains of the past (the sunken remains of old Hyrule).
I can't say what this new game will have in store for us, but looking at the previous titles I think, and I hope, we can expect an engaging story to go with these kick-ass graphics.
THe Wind Waker wouldn't have been any better received had this new game come out first -- just as many peopl would have bitched and moaned and complained about the graphics (oh, they look so childish, what's Miyamoto thinking?) as did do so, an possibly MORE would because they would already have gotten a taste of how kick-ass GCN graphics can be for a Zelda game. If you make a change, it's to reflect what the fans want, and where the series is going: and trust me, Wind Waker wouldn't have looked right with realistic graphics.
They didn't change the graphical engine between Ocarina and Majora's Mask because of how well it was received, even if they did essentially eliminate the "adult" Link character Model (no, Oni Link did not use the same character model, just a similar one!) -- they didn't need it, and the story was at least as serious, even if not as epic, as the story in Ocarina or Wind Waker or Trifor... Link to the Past. On the other hand, you have exactly the opposite happen with the first two Zelda games -- there is almost no story in Zelda 1 (Hyrule Legend) while Zelda 2 has a more epic feel, as you get to explore a world, hunt for artifacts/treasures, and even cross the sea in order to finish a quest where your shadow is trying to revive your sworn enemy -- there's an epic story for an Action/Adventure /pseudo-Roleplayer on the NES that most people never learned about.
I'm a big video-game fan, and the games I love, I know a lot about -- the Rockman series (Classic and Battle Network at least, not so much on X or Legends), the Zelda series, and the Final Fantasy series. I can debate Hyrule and Holodrum, Termina and Labrynna and the Great Sea all day, but that won't get us anywhere.
The one game I'd truly like to see right now is a GBA re-make of Zelda 1 that builds on the story, that exposes more to the events than "Many years ago, prince darkness "Gannon" stole the triforce containing power..." (granted, they've made slight changes to the port present on the Collecter's Edition GameCube disk, get a copy of it if you have a chance and consider yourself a true fan of the series).
Link's Awakening was no more "light-hearted" than Link to the Past -- it was less epic, but it still had a serious tone. After all, the Wind Fish seems to be a very powerful creature, and the darkness (Nightmare) that was corrupting its dream (the people, at least, on Koholint Island) seemed to reflect several dark forces from outside realms (Nightmare takes the form of both Agahnim and Ganon during the final battle).
Likewise, Majora's Mask was every bit as serious as Ocarina of Time, possibly even more so, when this kid, this 8-9 (I know Nintendo says he was 10 at the beginning of Ocarina, but I disagree) year-old kid has to save the world (or at least the nation of Termina) and only has 72 hours to do it. Every event you complete is another event you can't, and the only way to succeed in everything is to call on the Goddess of Time and repeat those three days until you omplete them -- and I doubt Link reverse-aged each time he went back to "Dawn of the First Day" -- he probably grew a year or more during that adventure, just helping everyone out that he possibly could (ie: Getting all of the masks).
I cannot say that Wind Waker was not a serious game, even though I have friends of friends (whom I have met personally, mind you) who claim that the graphics weren't the flaw, the story was. Wind Waker deals with the remains of a dying civilisation, most of the "true" Hylians are disappearing (the "true" Hylians being those with pointed ears like Link, Aryll, and Tetra) through interbreeding with the "common" people (those with "regular" human ears, like most people in most of the nations aside from Hyrule and Termina -- don't believe me? Check the official game art!), and also is about the quest to move on to the future, even if it costs the remains of the past (the sunken remains of old Hyrule).
I can't say what this new game will have in store for us, but looking at the previous titles I think, and I hope, we can expect an engaging story to go with these kick-ass graphics.