Link is coming...and this time....he's not some anime boy riding the winds!
This time......He's out for BLOOD!
All Zelda fans need to see this trailer!
http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/action/...97121.html
Its total Sweetness! ^_^
I am a HUGE Zelda fan since his first NES game!
I got all the Game Cube Games and I reserved the upcoming "Four Swords" Gamecube game. (get your reserved copy now!)
But You don't want to miss this new came that has all the look of a Lord of The Ring movie! ^_^
This one will be a great one!
I can't wait. I've loved Zelda since #1.
"Blades will Bleed!"
"Shield will Shatter!"
Now if thats not A sign of hardcore action I don't know what is?
I HOPE Link's shield doesn't shatter. I'd probably have to go back to the store and keep buying them, I'm such a shieldwhore.
heh now you see playstation had they're PSP and nintendo had this and about so many other things but what did x-box have? halo 2? HA! that game runs out once you shoot someone with everything and that's why again nintendo rules
Awesome! Dude, this is what GCN was made for: Kick-ass cinematic epics.
Does anyone elso think Windwaker would have been better recieved if this game had come out first?
Okay what I'm getting at is that The Zelda games have a bit of a reputation of going serious-lighthearted-serious-lighthearted etc. I'll start with A Link To The Past since that's the first one I played. Kick-ass game right? so then we have Link's Awakening while still kick-ass the main boss came in the form of a nightmare that wasen't really effecting things in the negative way Aghanim/Ganon was. Next came Ocarina of Time, major kickin'-ass again followed by Majora's Mask which again didn't feel to me as serious as Ocarina. (I'm leaving the recent GB titles out since I haven't had a chance to play though both yet and don't feel I know enough to rant about them.)
Okay so now we get Wind Waker which as graphically stunning and as fun as it is set the demographic back a bit and alienated some of us (myself included since I did my share of grumbling when I saw it) that have played most if not all the other games. So if the game that had come out first had been this one then Wind Waker I think there would have had a little less bitching and backbiting so that younger kids whose parents won't let them play something with blood or some other half-assed argument like that could enjoy the Zelda goodness too.
Ugh, bitching and griping, two things I hate.
THe Wind Waker wouldn't have been any better received had this new game come out first -- just as many peopl would have bitched and moaned and complained about the graphics (oh, they look so childish, what's Miyamoto thinking?) as did do so, an possibly MORE would because they would already have gotten a taste of how kick-ass GCN graphics can be for a Zelda game. If you make a change, it's to reflect what the fans want, and where the series is going: and trust me, Wind Waker wouldn't have looked right with realistic graphics.
They didn't change the graphical engine between Ocarina and Majora's Mask because of how well it was received, even if they did essentially eliminate the "adult" Link character Model (no, Oni Link did not use the same character model, just a similar one!) -- they didn't need it, and the story was at least as serious, even if not as epic, as the story in Ocarina or Wind Waker or Trifor... Link to the Past. On the other hand, you have exactly the opposite happen with the first two Zelda games -- there is almost no story in Zelda 1 (Hyrule Legend) while Zelda 2 has a more epic feel, as you get to explore a world, hunt for artifacts/treasures, and even cross the sea in order to finish a quest where your shadow is trying to revive your sworn enemy -- there's an epic story for an Action/Adventure /pseudo-Roleplayer on the NES that most people never learned about.
I'm a big video-game fan, and the games I love, I know a lot about -- the Rockman series (Classic and Battle Network at least, not so much on X or Legends), the Zelda series, and the Final Fantasy series. I can debate Hyrule and Holodrum, Termina and Labrynna and the Great Sea all day, but that won't get us anywhere.
The one game I'd truly like to see right now is a GBA re-make of Zelda 1 that builds on the story, that exposes more to the events than "Many years ago, prince darkness "Gannon" stole the triforce containing power..." (granted, they've made slight changes to the port present on the Collecter's Edition GameCube disk, get a copy of it if you have a chance and consider yourself a true fan of the series).
Link's Awakening was no more "light-hearted" than Link to the Past -- it was less epic, but it still had a serious tone. After all, the Wind Fish seems to be a very powerful creature, and the darkness (Nightmare) that was corrupting its dream (the people, at least, on Koholint Island) seemed to reflect several dark forces from outside realms (Nightmare takes the form of both Agahnim and Ganon during the final battle).
Likewise, Majora's Mask was every bit as serious as Ocarina of Time, possibly even more so, when this kid, this 8-9 (I know Nintendo says he was 10 at the beginning of Ocarina, but I disagree) year-old kid has to save the world (or at least the nation of Termina) and only has 72 hours to do it. Every event you complete is another event you can't, and the only way to succeed in everything is to call on the Goddess of Time and repeat those three days until you omplete them -- and I doubt Link reverse-aged each time he went back to "Dawn of the First Day" -- he probably grew a year or more during that adventure, just helping everyone out that he possibly could (ie: Getting all of the masks).
I cannot say that Wind Waker was not a serious game, even though I have friends of friends (whom I have met personally, mind you) who claim that the graphics weren't the flaw, the story was. Wind Waker deals with the remains of a dying civilisation, most of the "true" Hylians are disappearing (the "true" Hylians being those with pointed ears like Link, Aryll, and Tetra) through interbreeding with the "common" people (those with "regular" human ears, like most people in most of the nations aside from Hyrule and Termina -- don't believe me? Check the official game art!), and also is about the quest to move on to the future, even if it costs the remains of the past (the sunken remains of old Hyrule).
I can't say what this new game will have in store for us, but looking at the previous titles I think, and I hope, we can expect an engaging story to go with these kick-ass graphics.
While I agree that 'less epic' fits better than 'lighthearted' I stand by my original statement. While most of the games I cited as being more serious have moments where you tend to chuckle the "lighthearted" ones had moments that were obviously just for a laugh and I'll just cite a few.
In Link's Awakening there was the moments with Tarin, Marin's father, almost all were good for a good laugh.
In Majora's Mask there was the scene with the Zora you get the mask from (sorry can't remember his name right now, Mikael?... anyway,) who completely spazzes out before he kicks the bucket and then the "AWWW" factor that came from the scene where Cremia hugs you if you finish the escort quest a second time. How about the advent of Tingle? (lordy how I hate Tingle!!) OH and the bunny hood, me looooves the bunny hood!
Now Wind Waker also had these "just for laughs moments, Link's expression as he's shot out of the cannon, and then When an explosion sends him to smack into the Tower of the Gods are examples of this, then once again Tingle.
Now this of course is more or less a moot point since that really wasn't the point I was trying to get across anyway. What I meant by better recieved I shuld have said more justifiable to rabid fans instead. This new game appears to be going in a more adult direction which could make some gamers or parents of gamers uncomfortable. If this game had been released first just as it is some people might have had a bit of a shell shocked reaction after years of Nintendo proclaiming themselves to be the "Family System" and then they'd have to backtrack a bit to give the more 'safe game' player their moment in the sun because of it. See what I mean?
Now I hold no illusions to the fact that there's always going to be a sect of loud mouths that will hate anything new or differant and the fighting, flaming and various jackassery that did happen would have happened anyway. However there would be more of a justifiable reason for a game like Wind Waker to exist for those who didn't like how violent the new game could possibly be.
I wasn't suggesting that Wind Waker could have been released with the new graphics or for that matter Ocarina graphics since that'd be just plain silly and if you think about how it would have looked too much it'd make your head hurt. I prefer it just the way it is. Besides, chibis rock IMO.
Oh and full support on this end for remakes of the first two games, (or bundled as unlockables in the new one.) By the time I got a chance to play them they were older and my NES hasn't been too reliable in years so I didn't get to enjoy them as much. (Still haven't finished Adventures of Link.)
BTW does it strike anyone as odd that the first port/remake was of A Link to The Past? Gamewise that was still in recent memory but the NES games would be more obscure to the younger gamer. Oh well, I stopped trying to understand Big Business a long time ago.