Why does most of women's lib fit into these two main groups?

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Actually, we're both right. Men are stronger because women have children. Since men don't need the child-bearing body structure, they can have more muscle mass.

Yes, that's true. However, I think you missed my point there. It's true that women are physically weaker than men, but I don't think that's the reason why women have been opressed for so long. And remember, it's not as if women were being opressed everywhere. In a few societies, THEY are the strong sex, and men are being supressed. I can't think of any examples right now, but such societies have existed and some still do. I remember seing a documentary once about a region where rape and abuse of men by women was a huge problem. I'm quite sure it was somewhere in Asia, probably in a former sovjet country.

For what it's worth, the clothes on your back were probably sewn by girls working 12 hour days in a stuffy factory in Asia (for half of what we'd be paid for doing the same work in North America or Europe). That's manual labor too, you know, and in many ways, it's worse than working construction or hauling shit up out of a mine.

Good point! It's not as if women in general didn't do any manual labor... Just women in our parts of the world. Although, come to think of it, there's probably a fair amount of women who work in factories. I'm mainly thinking of women of the US working class here. And looking back at history, women built bombs and war machinery in the second world war.
Plus, if you go back a hundred and fifty years in European history, you'll find whole families with women and children working in factories under horrible conditions. This is what made communism so popular when it came up.

one reason why more Asian women go to work might be because the average Asian man isn't much stronger than the average Asian woman.

It might be manual labour of a kind, but strength isn't actually an issue in sewing clothes, you know.

A more important reason is that families in poor Asian countries just can't survive if only the man was working. That leads to child labor, which prevents children or young teenagers from getting a proper education, keeps them from getting a better job later in life and leads to the families which they will one day found leading more or less the same kind of life.

If you ask me, everyone should just boycot products by companies which are known to support such systems. Off the top of my head I can think of Nike. All they would have to do to improve these conditions drastically would be to raise the cost of one pair of Nike shoes by one Euro or Dollar or Pound or what have you. ONE LOUSY FUCKING BUCK!! But no, they'd rather make some extra cash, and besides, if they improve their business policy fucking Adidas will begin to push them off the market. So it's back to the factory for another twelve-hour working day for those twelve year old asian girls. It makes me SICK.
Michael Moore addressed the issue in one of his films (I think it was called "The Big One", I'm not very good like that.) He interviewed Nike's boss, and although the bastard denied there was any such problem, he refused to give any evidence for his claim. WHAT A SLEAZY ARSEHOLE!! Stuff like that makes me mad. It's so unfair.

Who'll get burned next? On my people, they took turns.

Who are your people?