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Man I'm getting tired of spoon feeding this topic.

(02-27-2009 04:31 PM)The Reclaimer Wrote: I'm talking about the games you need a highend PC for, if you're buying a highend PC its not for Flash games and shareware.

So, you don't count any of the independent games and the people who pour their heart and soul into these games as games still though?


Quote:Yes, and it costs money. You say its so expensive to buy accessories for a console. If you're buying gamepads and joysticks for your PC, that's an accessory cost too. I hope that point has finally made it across.

Well of course it costs money but you only need like two gamepads and they're much cheaper than 360 controllers. And you can play games using keyboard or mouse. Some games that are played in turn, such as risk and such kind many player games need only mouse.

Quote:That was only the first few links google had to offer.


Well darn.

Also, wow Microsoft bought Johnny Chung Lee. Not hard to see why but I always thought he was more of a nintendo guy?

Quote:See links above. Is it built into the systems now? No. but they'll implement it, just like you'll need to for your PC.

Actually, you don't really need to implement anything as long as you have a monitor and graphics card good enough to support it, you then just need the glasses and the software. I really wonder how this works with 360 and PS 3 though, are they going to sell upgraded models or downloadable firmware updates?

Quote:Yeah, I agree with you. My point was the potential for an incompatiblity exists. You cannot deny that, it's a simple fact.

There's always chance of that. Just as there's chance that your costy 360 was broken to begin with and starts with red ring of death from day 1, as long as we're shooting fishes in barrel.

Quote:Well apparently Sony has a 10 year plan for the PS3 though I don't think it'll last that long. The 360 has been out since November 22, 2005. Not too far away from 4 years I'd say...and a new console hasn't even been announced. Seeing as how the hardware is still turning out awesome looking games, and getting better all the time, I'd consider it in tune.

This version of generation won't last longer than one year or two year max and that's a fact. Not because there'd be any problem with the said consoles per say but because there's always "new model" that has slight improvments and then people buy it instead.

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Yes, about half the cost for the entire console if its a significant enough upgrade. And the upgrade after that might cost you to the next console, and so on and so forth. Unless you game significantly the upgrades can become too costly to be rational. I admit that if you buy a lot of new games, the upgrade route is probably cheaper. But I buy maybe ten games a year, all of them usually the games that push graphics and sound. I know I don't need upgrades for them on my console.

I buy like few games a year. Fallout 3 was so big that I had to go and get updated graphics card and I'm loving my high quality that's better than on either PS 3 or 360. :D

Quote:While I doubt there will be a PS4, I disagree.

Oh yes there will be. I can almost bet on you with that.

Quote:Because you pay the $200 for that one upgrade. How much will the other upgrades down the line cost? Consoles pushed their release limit at $600, the PS3 sold poorly. And Blu-Ray tech will be even cheaper in the future so I'd expect $400-$500 to be the newest console drop point, unless a new expensive tech is implemented. So you pay that $200 for the one upgrade, and if you need more that can run $200+, or cheaper of course, but when I buy a console I know I'm getting the most up to date console that will play the next gen's worth of games, now or five years from now, without any upgrades.

You don't need to upgrade all your components every other year. Again, you may not be able to run on max settings but at least the games will run for about as long.


Quote:But maybe someone doesn't have the money to buy a PC, and all the top end things for it. Maybe the different between a $1000 PC (before you buy the quality games and accessories) and the $600 for a console (with quality games and accessories) makes a big difference to the people who don't have the income.

As my mom always said "Poor people can't afford to buy cheap things"


The cheaper tag comes in form of loss of quality. Both consoles break down way more than a PC (again I'm not talking about stone age) while of course a pc can crash too, you can always become UBER and turn to linux software instead, I heard that fixes a lot of crashes.

A PC error usually is easy to fix by even a guy who can't tell their ass apart from keyboard. Console errors usually crash the entire thing so bad not even the professionals can fix it.



And you can always go pro and build your computer from scratch using custom parts and in that way, sparing 200$ or so by getting the parts picked to you invidually and done that way. In that case, your high end computer costs abouts 800$ dollars and runs like a dream for years to come.

If you have 600$ that's over 60% of the money needed for PC. Just wait few months and you can buy a new computer then. You'll be glad you did.

Quote:Yes, and if your PC can't play the game you want?

That's then tough shit. Consoles don't play all games either. You won't be playing Zelda on 360 for instance. boohoo

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Yeah, because we know 98 was the most flawed windows OS, and every one since has been without flaw.

My god, are you seriously so stupid??

98 WAS most unstable OS ever and that IS a fact. Even the old windows 32 or whatever the hell didn't crash as often. 2000 helpt bring stability and XP fixed most of the crashes even more.


I *never* claimed they never crash I just said they don't from normal use of opening calculator or starting computer up or something like 95/98 did.

Quote: I've seen, along with countless others, blue screen (and complete stop of functions) from PCs...which are usually a bit more pricey to repair or out right replace.

Again, where do you keep seeing blue screens? Seriously?

Quote:This right here is the reason this will be my last post on this topic.

"Because this person continues to disagree, I am going to be grumpy camper and leave the debate."

Quote:You are not even willing to entertain the fact that consoles have their own benefits for certain people

'Okay I'm going to entertain the fact then.


Hey fact, how do you catch a bunny?

Fact: ?

Go behind a bush and imitate a carrot.

Fact: :D

Quote: You are so absorbed in the fact that consoles have implemented a lot of PC features but are not full function PCs.

And it's true! You don't even have a CALCULATOR on 360! What's your next gen console now huh? :D

Quote:I don't care what your PC can do and my 360 can't.

I can do many things. And from what I heard, you fix 360 using computer too but not vice versa.

Quote: I have my 360 for games.

Good for you, aren't most of those for PC too though?

Quote:I enjoy that it can play movies, music, photos, etc.


Movies it can't export, music that it can't burn, photos it can't print, etc.

Quote:But I purchased it for games.


And not the music? lol

Quote:And one thing I enjoy about my 360 is that I never have to look at game specs to see if they'll work for me. Ever.

Oh really? When I buy a Wii, I always look at back looking if it has HDTV compability, how many players it has, if it has online features, along much other info. 360 covers don't have any of this? (Aside HD, everyone knows all the games are to begin with)

Quote:And you call the 360 and PS3 "PC wanna-be's" and yet the Nintendo has built in Wi-Fi, memory, an internet browser, photo editor, most of the things the 360 and PS3 have.


It also has friend codes! Man, I hate that shit.

Quote:But because it uses a different input, a motion controller, that somehow makes Wii, un-pc like.

Fun fact; it does!!

Quote:And most of all it's clear that Nintendo can do no wrong because of your opinion of them.

Yeah they can.



Virtual Boy.

Quote:Nintendo Wii is fun, but there has been no game I've played on it that I've found to be revolutionary.


Wii Fit, Zack&Wiki, Super Mario Galaxy, etc, etc. Well, any game that uses the Wii mote could be called revolutionary, seeing as 360 and PS 3 still use game pads and PS 3 made motion controller blow ass and based on Blue Tooth. (Which causes many blue tooth problems)

Quote:You've talked up Wii Fit so much, and it's fun, it's got some cool mini games and interesting techniques, but outside of the mini-games you can do all those things without paying the $90 for the game and pad.

Of course you can. But most people don't. Or do you go and do warrior stances 3 minute row in daily? Or any of the other exercise?

Also it doesn't just come with the mini games. It actually teaches you the moves. Doing them solo, you may fuck up the moves and that destroys the entire benefit of the said moves. With Wii fit, it tells you if you have incorrect footing and what areas you should focus on improving and gives a much, better understanding about your body as a whole.

Quote:I like Xbox, I admit it's not perfect, and that other systems work better for other people. I'm not going to push my system on them.


I am not either. Chaos asked which is best and I gave a straight answer, you're so mixed up for the fact you wasted 600$+ that you just can't admit 360 just isn't that good and come to debate.

Quote:I've acknowledged that the PC has it's benefits, but I still don't believe it's the end all be all game device.

True, it ain't but did you ever see me claim it as such? I said it's better than 360 and PS 3 and it is.

Quote:Just because your PC can do 20 things my Xbox can't, dosen't make it a better game device, it just makes it useful for other things.

Game related things too. FPS are best to be played with keyboard mouse configuration. Games run smoother, with less lag or loading times. Most PC games also have other nifty features and better graphics too, if your PC can handle it.

Quote:The topic came to what game system should he get?


And I answered. You didn't like it and began to post a huge rant of why 360 is somehow better than PC.

Quote:When it comes to gaming, for the money, I still say 360 is the way to go if Wii is out of the picture.


And it shouldn't be, if it comes to gaming.

Quote:If you want to buy a top of the line PC to play the latest and greatest games, go for it. But if your current PC is working for you, and you want a console, it's a good direction to go.

If you already own a PC, with few upgardes your PC can run many of the modern games as long as it's not too old to begin with.
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Sold My Wii - by Chaosmetroid - 02-20-2009, 04:41 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by tigerlily - 02-21-2009, 02:13 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Erethzium - 02-21-2009, 02:14 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by The Reclaimer - 02-21-2009, 03:17 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Guilmon and a shotgun - 02-21-2009, 04:32 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Crimson Fox - 02-21-2009, 05:11 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Ghostiemon - 02-21-2009, 07:49 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Erethzium - 02-21-2009, 12:16 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Chaosmetroid - 02-21-2009, 09:56 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Bee - 02-21-2009, 10:07 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by The Reclaimer - 02-25-2009, 05:29 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Lost - 02-21-2009, 11:44 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Ryan - 02-21-2009, 12:19 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by UnknownH - 02-21-2009, 02:39 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Chaosmetroid - 02-21-2009, 03:07 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Erethzium - 02-21-2009, 11:23 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Ryan - 02-22-2009, 04:44 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Bee - 02-21-2009, 03:22 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Chaosmetroid - 02-22-2009, 04:52 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Guilmon and a shotgun - 02-22-2009, 06:27 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Erethzium - 02-22-2009, 04:30 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Ghostiemon - 02-22-2009, 06:29 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by UnknownH - 02-22-2009, 02:21 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Guilmon and a shotgun - 02-22-2009, 11:08 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Crimson Fox - 02-23-2009, 02:45 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Kurtz - 02-23-2009, 04:30 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Bee - 02-23-2009, 05:09 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Ghostiemon - 02-23-2009, 08:53 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Chaosmetroid - 02-23-2009, 12:53 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MISTER BIG T - 02-24-2009, 03:28 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by UnknownH - 02-23-2009, 03:41 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by DragonMasterX - 02-24-2009, 01:26 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by UnknownH - 02-24-2009, 03:57 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Guilmon and a shotgun - 02-24-2009, 04:18 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Lost - 02-24-2009, 05:14 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MISTER BIG T - 02-24-2009, 05:29 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Kurtz - 02-24-2009, 08:19 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MISTER BIG T - 02-24-2009, 09:27 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Ghostiemon - 02-24-2009, 09:30 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by DragonMasterX - 02-24-2009, 10:38 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Chaosmetroid - 02-24-2009, 04:28 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Guilmon and a shotgun - 02-25-2009, 06:31 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MISTER BIG T - 02-25-2009, 12:05 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by The Reclaimer - 02-25-2009, 02:54 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MISTER BIG T - 02-26-2009, 11:50 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by The Reclaimer - 02-27-2009, 04:31 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MISTER BIG T - 02-27-2009, 05:22 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by The Reclaimer - 02-28-2009, 03:56 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MISTER BIG T - 02-28-2009, 10:04 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by The Reclaimer - 03-02-2009, 01:05 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MISTER BIG T - 03-03-2009, 08:45 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by The Reclaimer - 03-05-2009, 11:48 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Kurtz - 02-25-2009, 08:03 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Guilmon and a shotgun - 02-25-2009, 08:21 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by UnknownH - 02-25-2009, 02:28 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Chaosmetroid - 02-27-2009, 01:52 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MISTER BIG T - 02-27-2009, 04:16 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by UnknownH - 02-27-2009, 02:29 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by UnknownH - 02-28-2009, 03:55 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Chaosmetroid - 03-02-2009, 01:27 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by UnknownH - 03-02-2009, 03:18 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Gol22 - 03-02-2009, 05:14 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Guilmon and a shotgun - 03-03-2009, 09:21 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MISTER BIG T - 03-03-2009, 10:01 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Kurtz - 03-03-2009, 10:46 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by UnknownH - 03-05-2009, 02:18 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by senjuro - 03-05-2009, 11:58 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Guilmon and a shotgun - 03-06-2009, 05:10 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by The Reclaimer - 03-06-2009, 03:58 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by UnknownH - 03-06-2009, 02:53 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by senjuro - 03-06-2009, 10:53 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by DragonMasterX - 03-07-2009, 12:54 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Erethzium - 03-07-2009, 05:57 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Guilmon and a shotgun - 03-07-2009, 08:55 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Erethzium - 03-07-2009, 09:32 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by senjuro - 03-07-2009, 10:13 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MISTER BIG T - 03-07-2009, 10:45 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Guilmon and a shotgun - 03-07-2009, 11:20 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MISTER BIG T - 03-07-2009, 11:25 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Guilmon and a shotgun - 03-07-2009, 11:50 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by senjuro - 03-07-2009, 03:06 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Guilmon and a shotgun - 03-07-2009, 08:27 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MISTER BIG T - 03-07-2009, 11:43 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Guilmon and a shotgun - 03-08-2009, 08:59 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Chaosmetroid - 03-09-2009, 01:57 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Ghostiemon - 03-10-2009, 08:07 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MISTER BIG T - 03-10-2009, 10:22 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MISTER BIG T - 03-26-2009, 02:31 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Guilmon and a shotgun - 03-26-2009, 05:45 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MISTER BIG T - 03-26-2009, 11:21 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by The Reclaimer - 03-27-2009, 02:08 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by senjuro - 03-27-2009, 12:59 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Guilmon and a shotgun - 03-27-2009, 04:47 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MagusKnight - 03-28-2009, 09:25 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by UnknownH - 03-28-2009, 01:25 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Erethzium - 03-30-2009, 06:51 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by UnknownH - 03-27-2009, 01:25 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Chaosmetroid - 03-28-2009, 10:21 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Guilmon and a shotgun - 03-28-2009, 10:22 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MagusKnight - 03-28-2009, 10:23 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by The Reclaimer - 03-28-2009, 02:19 PM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MagusKnight - 03-29-2009, 02:39 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MISTER BIG T - 03-30-2009, 05:53 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by MagusKnight - 03-30-2009, 08:15 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Crimson Fox - 03-31-2009, 11:27 AM
RE: Sold My Wii - by Chaosmetroid - 04-11-2009, 03:50 PM