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Ghost_Op Wrote:Shadowknight Wrote:Ghost_Op Wrote:Howitzers are old school.
XM307 automatic grenade launcher. For the win.
Right, and I'm Ghost.
Yeah but a grenade launcer would only be able to take out a certain area. A howitzer could completely mow down an entire army.
Than send in an AH-64D Longbow for anti-ground work and have an AWACS and an F-16 Block 60 fly air cloaking and support. Which could quickly locate and destroy your howitzers.
We're talking which weapon would work best in crown control. And a howitzer is the best CC weapon there is, aside from a well placed A-Bomb.
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Shadowknight Wrote:Ghost_Op Wrote:Shadowknight Wrote:Ghost_Op Wrote:Howitzers are old school.
XM307 automatic grenade launcher. For the win.
Right, and I'm Ghost.
Yeah but a grenade launcer would only be able to take out a certain area. A howitzer could completely mow down an entire army.
Than send in an AH-64D Longbow for anti-ground work and have an AWACS and an F-16 Block 60 fly air cloaking and support. Which could quickly locate and destroy your howitzers.
We're talking which weapon would work best in crown control. And a howitzer is the best CC weapon there is, aside from a well placed A-Bomb.
Nothing fairs better in CQC than a team of armed Rangers. A howitzer and an atomic weapon are too big, bulky, and overly-powerful to be useful in a CQC situation.
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A grenade launcher is even more useless, you'd blow yourself up. If in CQC the best type of fighting would be knives or HTH.
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Curious. There's a rocking humour TV program called CQC in my country. Oh, gotta love people who turn counter-strike in a real life situation to infiltrate conventions to then be kicked away. Such nice times.
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Shadowknight Wrote:A grenade launcher is even more useless, you'd blow yourself up. If in CQC the best type of fighting would be knives or HTH.
A howitzer would be more useless in CQC, but that's besides the point.
To quote you...
Shadowknight Wrote:We're talking which weapon would work best in crown control. And a howitzer is the best CC weapon there is, aside from a well placed A-Bomb.
CC = Close Combat, if I'm correct. I assumed you meant CQC. Compounding on that...
Ghost_Op Wrote:Nothing fairs better in CQC than a team of armed Rangers. A howitzer and an atomic weapon are too big, bulky, and overly-powerful to be useful in a CQC situation.
I said nothing about using an XM307 in CQC, I only mentioned it because I was pointing out that the XM307 is far more tactically flexible in a staged killing ("Make that a very straight line...
") than a howitzer. The only situation in modern times in which a howitzer would outclass a man-portable, squad-operated AGL would be medium-range artillery support.
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Ghost_Op Wrote:CC = Close Combat, if I'm correct. I assumed you meant CQC. Compounding on that...
By CC I meant Crowd Control. A grenaded is good but they only hit a specific area and are timed so they give the enemy a brief moment to run, whereas a howitzer will blow through them like a blowtorch through butter.
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Shadowknight Wrote:Ghost_Op Wrote:CC = Close Combat, if I'm correct. I assumed you meant CQC. Compounding on that...
By CC I meant Crowd Control. A grenaded is good but they only hit a specific area and are timed so they give the enemy a brief moment to run, whereas a howitzer will blow through them like a blowtorch through butter.
Ah, crowd control, my mistake.
Anyways, the XM307 explodes on impact, with no delay, and many shots can be fired in quick succession. A howitzer, however, is so massive that even if the trajectory required to fire down a straight line was aquired, it's likely that the operators would be killed themselves. It's HEAVY ARTILLERY. It also has to be manually re-loaded shot for shot, so unless the group of people are in roughly a 25-foot diameter circle for the explosive power of the howitzer to have a lethal effect on them, or if they are in a perfectly straight line and the shell perforates them and doesn't explode, a howitzer lends a very small amount of tactical value.
Unless, of course, it's a BATTERY of howitzers...those could destroy a block.