What's All this Shit Going on in Congress?

[ShadrachVS]

Cowboy? Ok im going to take offense to that. I may come from Texas, I may be a bit country, and I sure as hell am a bit Redneck.
But i dont do crap with cattle, i dont pretend to be a cowboy. I especially dont want any part of that shit-kicker trend that has been going on over the last 15-20 years.
I get tired of the bullshit I hear.
As for why people want there to be limits on television; Perhaps because they realize that they cannot completely mold and shape their children as they wish, because they realize that they cannot be always with their children. I as a sensible being, wish to raise children intelligent enough to ignore the mindless blather of our society and the ingnorant rantings of extremists; I sure as hell dont want my children to grow up thinking that certain things are now socially acceptible are by any means right in the area of morals.

Morals vs. Ethics? go take sociology. Both Ethics and Morals are LEARNED, morals are the basic ideals of right and wrong, Ethics is the specific application of morals.

Call me backwater if you want, but I personally dont give a damn if some gay couple is happy being gay; as long as some gay person doesnt set it in my lap. I am the kind of person that believes some things should be done in privacy and never in public, and I tend to apply those to whoever you are. Back to what I held on about the issue of Gay marraiges, they are tax evasion... nothing but Tax Evasion. A heterosexual marraige most of the time produces children which are the future of our society, homosexual relations go agains the VERY baseline instincts of every animal on earth. Humans live to dominate, learn, and reproduce.

And if anyone tries to pull the bullshit about homosexual relations being ok in Christian religon; Sodom and Gommora ladies and gents.

To the issue at hand, Sarky get off your own cynicism spiel. I could care less, the problem with what happened was is it was a premeditated breach of FCC regulations. You know why the US government has the right to censor public broadcasts? Because it is difficult to limit who sees them. Subscription channels can limit their audience, porn magazines can be controlled in sale, the same goes for video tapes.
Massively broadcast TV and Radio signals cannot easily be controlled, so censure is allowed to affect these mediums. whether you agree with it or not, that is the way the MAJORITY of americans want it. Last I checked we are still majority Rule, with minority rights.

Now to the 'Zero Coping Skills' well deary, deal with it. So people will be outraged when they see something they seriously disagree with, that is a NORMAL reaction. It is the ingrained bullshit of society to ignore and accept what we dont agree with, i say fuck that - if something bothers you that bad tell the person responsible, if they have any respect for their fellow human beings they will most likely stop.

Coping is very bad thing to me, if you just sit back and pretend nothing bothers you, you will become complacent and worthless. Stand up for your beliefs, rights, and social views; whatever ideas those may be. We are Fucking Americans, we have the right to say or think what we want, as long as what we say doesnt strip someone esle of their rights.

-Quietly awaiting a slew of heated, half-thought out, and rather funny responses.

[Sangy]

first of all, i'm in fuckign sociology right now and i know what i'm talking about when it comes to ethics and morals. ethics are NOT learned, you develop them YOURSELF according to what you've learned. morals are rather specifically told to you. (e.g. what the fucking cult they call the christian church does)

second, THAT'S NOT WHAT COPING IS, that's acceptance. coping is the ability to deal with things. as in childern in today's society cannot cope with anything even remotely sexual without being fucking traumatized because redneck christian bastards run this country and don't realize that it does only harm to "protect" a child from the brutal reality of the world. as far as i'm concerned censorship of EVERY manner --the withholding of information by parents included-- needs to be stopped asap if we ever hope to raise children that aren't completely fucked up.

Honestly, i don't give a shit about whether the chirstian religion is ok with gay people or not because it's all a bunch of BULLSHIT. now i normally don't cut down on people's beliefs, but don't even fucking try to preach your damn morallity of homosexuality according what your cult (organization based on a storybook) tells you. that's something i'm not gonna stand for. and if you respond to this by telling me that i shouldn't cut down on your beliefs or if anyone says it's NOT a storybook, then you had better fucking be prepared to take me back in time and prove it. cause, the words of one of my favorite comedians: "there's two things that're mentioned alot in the bible; wine, and shit that's hard to believe...i think the wine came first".

Last but not least, about your whole deal about talking to people about every fucking little thing that bothers you, FUCK YOU. if it ain't hurting you, you have NO right to complain you fucking whiney bastard. people have the right to do anything they want if it doesn't hurt anyone, and if you don't like it then LEAVE. coping may be different than acceptance, but you gotta learn to accept things too. readnecks like you are the reasons schools get shot up, the reason sports players make more than doctors and don't have to do jack shit to help anyone and basically the cause of every fucking hate crime in the country. you wanna talk about people stopping shit, how bout you get the redneck brotherhood to stop being abunch of hypocritical assholes.

[urban dream]

Back to what I held on about the issue of Gay marraiges, they are tax evasion... nothing but Tax Evasion. A heterosexual marraige most of the time produces children which are the future of our society, homosexual relations go agains the VERY baseline instincts of every animal on earth.

Look up seahorses. They reproduce male/male, believe it or not.
And who says a couple is obliged to have children if it wants to be acknowledged as a couple? Our world is going to be pretty overpopulated in fifty years' time if things continue at this rate, anyway. For me, couple = two people in love.

I don't believe in marriage nor christianity, but if someone else wants to, what business of mine is it to interfere? I couldn't care less.

Call me backwater if you want, but I personally dont give a damn if some gay couple is happy being gay; as long as some gay person doesnt set it in my lap.

It seems one doesn't have to do much to get things "in your lap", then. If you believe some things should only be done in private, power to you! But why does everybody else have to go with your beliefs in your opinion? Can't people just be different from you, without you immediately disliking them?


Oh, and *agrees with Sangy*

Not that it'd matter much. At this rate, this topic is going to be locked/deleted before the hour is up. :P

[Red Mage Dragon Tiamat]

gah I cannot hear that shit anymore. sorry.

But why cannot people leave gay people simply life their life they want to live. If two are liking each other, then what is wrong with it when they are marrying. I think everybody has the right to do what they want, like Sangy said as long it hurts nobody else.
Who get's hurt when two gay people marries?
Answer from me: NOBODY!!

Everytime peoples pick at them, coz they don't fit their point of view. Fuck it. It's crap to think that way.

Leave them in peace and let them do what they want. They have the same rights then hetero ones. Only the fact they love peoples from the same gender doesn't make them to bad people.

In my opinion they earn a lot of respect. They stand to their feelings and it is good this way.

So I have a lot of respect for them.

[MATTHEWDMETCALF]

Well, there's a fundimental problem with Sangy's rantings, it's just that science is just as much bull as religion is. If matter cannot be created or destroyed (along with energy), how did the Big Bang happen, where did all that matter come from? Also, how did evolution begin if life cannot be created from nothing? All these things point to a divine source. Of course, I beleive that evolution did actually happen, but it was started by a divine presense. That's the funny thing, science and religion cannot be true without each other.

I don't have anything against athiesm, but I do have a problem when you start saying christians are ignorant PCs, I am a christian and I am not offended by such things.

[Sangy]

as far as the creation of the universe is concerned, i'm with steven hawking on that one, the universe always was. but as far as the creation of life, a divine presence is still life and must have come from somewhere, explain that one.

mat here does have a point though, science often leaves things unexplained. however the big bang theory is not one of them. things is, the more matter is compressed the more energy there is, with enough compression it's phesable(sp?) that an explosion could occur. but then, like i said, i believe that the universe always was, it simply goes through cycles of change.

since mat was actually cordial with his words, unlike a certain person, i'll tell ya'll what i believe in. my personal believe is that there are superior beings in the universe with powers far beyond our comprehension that could concivably visit and talk to people on earth, but i don't believe in some supreme being. if there are any superior beings out there, it's a species just like any on earth that just happen to have whatever abilities they might possess.

a single being cannot live forever. where there is one, there must be others, else the species would have died out long ago.

not too far-fetched i think, at the very least, no more so than saying at some point there was nothing, yet there was something there that created everything from nothing when there was nothing but this one thing that existed when nothing existed. lol

[MATTHEWDMETCALF]

a divine presence is still life which means it must have come from somewhere

I was actually thinking more from a spiritual realm, which is scientifically possible, thanks to the multiverse theory.

the big bang theory is not one of them. things is, the more matter is compressed the more energy there is, with enough compression it's phesable(sp?) that an explosion could occur

Well, for one thing, the matter which did originate, the super-compressed ball of it...where did it come from? It could not come out of thin air, I assure you. That, and an explosion could only occur if an outside force caused the matter to go off. That's from Isaac Newton.

[Organous]

All this from a little tit at a football game. :P

[urban dream]

Yeah, it's amazing, innit

[Duncman]

yep that for sure