Sold My Wii

[The Reclaimer]

How could I pass responding to this?

So, you don't count any of the independent games and the people who pour their heart and soul into these games as games still though?

Those games do not require the highend PC we're talking about. I get to play plenty of independant games on my very basic 5 year old computer all the time.

Well of course it costs money but you only need like two gamepads and they're much cheaper than 360 controllers. And you can play games using keyboard or mouse. Some games that are played in turn, such as risk and such kind many player games need only mouse.

My point was that you can't knock consoles for accesory costs when PC has them too. I can see that you agree it can cost more.

Actually, you don't really need to implement anything as long as you have a monitor and graphics card good enough to support it, you then just need the glasses and the software. I really wonder how this works with 360 and PS 3 though, are they going to sell upgraded models or downloadable firmware updates?

But if you don't have the things good enough, you will need to update. And you will need to do something to your computer to make it 3D compatible. It won't just happen. Your PC would require at least a download, probably like you said, some kind of update. I assume the consoles will get a firmware update, or something that would sell with the glasses.

There's always chance of that. Just as there's chance that your costy 360 was broken to begin with and starts with red ring of death from day 1, as long as we're shooting fishes in barrel.

I wasn't talking about the unit functioning. PCs can have out of box malfunctions too. Xbox 360 games will play in an Xbox 360 100% of the time. The chance of a PC game being incompatible with a PC exists. That was all I was saying. As you stated, if its a properly tuned gaming PC this problem will not be something to worry about. But if someone doesn't know how to configure it properly, it can cause issues.

This version of generation won't last longer than one year or two year max and that's a fact. Not because there'd be any problem with the said consoles per say but because there's always "new model" that has slight improvments and then people buy it instead.

Like the how many DS's that are out there? Everything comes out with slight tweaks. That's why you can upgrade components on your PC. The simple fact is that any Xbox 360, or and PS3, is current gen and will stand until a new console is released.

I buy like few games a year. Fallout 3 was so big that I had to go and get updated graphics card and I'm loving my high quality that's better than on either PS 3 or 360. :D

Fair enough, but you had to upgrade your PC to play it. If I wanted to I could have just popped the 360 disc into my console, and I'm good to go. I haven't seen the game in action on each system so I can't comment on quality.

You don't need to upgrade all your components every other year. Again, you may not be able to run on max settings but at least the games will run for about as long.

And you don't need to upgrade consoles every other year. Again, the 360 is going on 3.5 years and a new system isn't even announced which means we will probably get 5 years out of it. You said your PC is in tune for 4, so even if a system drops in the next 6 months, the console has matched that.

As my mom always said "Poor people can't afford to buy cheap things"

The cheaper tag comes in form of loss of quality. Both consoles break down way more than a PC (again I'm not talking about stone age) while of course a pc can crash too, you can always become UBER and turn to linux software instead, I heard that fixes a lot of crashes.

A PC error usually is easy to fix by even a guy who can't tell their ass apart from keyboard. Console errors usually crash the entire thing so bad not even the professionals can fix it.

I've had my 360 break on me. I've had my PC break on me. I've had every PC I owned break down at least once, not always to the point of death, but to the point of considerable time and effort. I've had one console break on me ever. PC errors can be easy to fix, but so can consoles. And I don't know who you have fixing consoles but I've had them fixed by Microsoft, for free, and my buddy had his fixed by his friend, with not much hassle.

And you can always go pro and build your computer from scratch using custom parts and in that way, sparing 200$ or so by getting the parts picked to you invidually and done that way. In that case, your high end computer costs abouts 800$ dollars and runs like a dream for years to come.

After you invest the time and effort into learning how to, and then successfully assembling the computer. How to put a computer together is not something an average person knows, and it's a delicate procedure. If you can take that route, yes you will save money, but again, this is not something that is simple to do. You need a good understanding and knowhow about how to handle the boards, etc, and what goes into creating a PC.

That's then tough shit. Consoles don't play all games either. You won't be playing Zelda on 360 for instance.

No, but they play the games I expect them too. Like I said, a 360 game will always work for me, the same cannot be said for PC 100% of the time. Of course, like I said before, I understand there are PCs that this will not be an issue for.

"Because this person continues to disagree, I am going to be grumpy camper and leave the debate."

Not grumpy in the slightest. Just amused that you're so closed minded about consoles unless Nintendo is on the side.

'Okay I'm going to entertain the fact then.


Hey fact, how do you catch a bunny?

Fact: ?

Go behind a bush and imitate a carrot.

Fact: :D

Exactly.

And it's true! You don't even have a CALCULATOR on 360! What's your next gen console now huh? :D

Still a next gen console...you know that I can still play games on. I didn't buy my 360 to do math. I have a cell phone, or you know, actual calculator.

I can do many things. And from what I heard, you fix 360 using computer too but not vice versa.

I don't know what problem you fix with a computer for the 360, but I wouldn't doubt that one exists. PCs fix damn near everything.

Good for you, aren't most of those for PC too though?

Yeah, your point? I never argued they weren't.

Movies it can't export, music that it can't burn, photos it can't print, etc.

No, that's why I have a PC, so I can do all those things, while playing my 360, without any slowdown whatso ever.

Oh really? When I buy a Wii, I always look at back looking if it has HDTV compability, how many players it has, if it has online features, along much other info. 360 covers don't have any of this? (Aside HD, everyone knows all the games are to begin with)

Of course, I was referring to the processor, graphics card, etc. information. Not the gameplay basics. To go there with it seems like an avoid for the obvious point I was making.

Fun fact; it does!!

And yet, unless you're playing a game with that remote, it's just a pointing device...like a mouse.

Wii Fit, Zack&Wiki, Super Mario Galaxy, etc, etc. Well, any game that uses the Wii mote could be called revolutionary, seeing as 360 and PS 3 still use game pads and PS 3 made motion controller blow ass and based on Blue Tooth. (Which causes many blue tooth problems)

So a different input is the qualification for revolutionary? Wow, I'll be completely underwhelmed by every game you consider revolutionary. As for still using game pads...where is the big PC revolution? Where is the superior input control there? It's the same as it's ever been.

Of course you can. But most people don't. Or do you go and do warrior stances 3 minute row in daily? Or any of the other exercise?

Also it doesn't just come with the mini games. It actually teaches you the moves. Doing them solo, you may fuck up the moves and that destroys the entire benefit of the said moves. With Wii fit, it tells you if you have incorrect footing and what areas you should focus on improving and gives a much, better understanding about your body as a whole.

Or you can take that $90, and go do that at a gym somewhere...with other people.

I am not either. Chaos asked which is best and I gave a straight answer, you're so mixed up for the fact you wasted 600$+ that you just can't admit 360 just isn't that good and come to debate.

I couldn't have spent $600 better. I have nothing but good gaming with my 360, barely any headaches from it, and get to enjoy unlimited online play with any 360 game I want for only $50 a year. I get to enjoy all the goodness my 360 has to offer, and still have the extra money you spent on your new PC.

True, it ain't but did you ever see me claim it as such? I said it's better than 360 and PS 3 and it is.

All I've heard from you is that PCs are the end all be all, unless its a nintendo wii, and that 360 and PS3 have no good attributed.

Game related things too. FPS are best to be played with keyboard mouse configuration. Games run smoother, with less lag or loading times. Most PC games also have other nifty features and better graphics too, if your PC can handle it.

Yes, if you're PC can handle it. And it costs you to handle it. The FPS best played with keyboard and mouse is an opinion and preference. I prefer the gamepad. As for games running smoother and having less lag and load, well I can't argue much there, except that in many cases the differences are insignificant and/or ignorable all together.

And I answered. You didn't like it and began to post a huge rant of why 360 is somehow better than PC.

No. You jumped on PS3 and 360 right off the bat (with off base things like: cost, and 3D gaming) and I just wanted to clear a few things up. I certainly never said one was better than the other. In fact, several times I said I understand why you like PCs, I just stated I enjoy my 360 for gaming more.

And it shouldn't be, if it comes to gaming.

Because apparently, if its not Nintendo, it's not worth gaming.

If you already own a PC, with few upgardes your PC can run many of the modern games as long as it's not too old to begin with.

I'm not arguing that, but for the same cost, it could (not neccesarily will) be the same cost of a console.