Sold My Wii

[The Reclaimer]

In most cases, it isn't.

Like when? I already explained how I can get a high end four person 360 setup, a year of online service, and games and accesories for the cost or cheaper of what it costs you just to get your PC. If it just gets cheaper from there when is it ever more expensive? But the time you add your upgrades you've paid for a new system, so it's not like you're making money up there.

ADD ON: I just looked through that alienware value bundle, leaving all defaults was $1000...without a monitor. So it would cost another $219 to get their cheapest suggested monitor. I could get a decent HD tv with my 360 for the cost your up to with the PC.

Which is helpt with having friends or internet connection, then you don't have to play alone.

The point was that unless you buy the extra stuff (which you say are expensive accessories for the consoles) you are paying $1000 to play one person to a station. I wasn't including playing online. I'm talking about my friends come over, they can grab a controller and jump in. Yes, you can do that on a PC but it will cost more money, controllers/gamepads.

Computer doesn't go online then?

Where did I say the computer doesn't go online?

For 10$ a month, I can play with billions of people on World of Warcraft. :D

Yeah, for $120 a year you can play one game with billions of people, for $50 a year I can play many games, with more than enough people.

Unless you have friends. Because you know, ever heard of 2 player games? There's quite many of them.

Once again I was talking at one station, and if you want two people to play, you'll need a second input device, which costs $$$, which once again dosen't make a PC any cheaper than a console.

And no games? PC has BILLIONS FREE GAMES. No console has even half the ammount of free stuff PC gives you, from Flash games, to stylish shareware and Freeware games and old games released to open medium on ScummV or some other means by the makers.

I'm talking about the games you need a highend PC for, if you're buying a highend PC its not for Flash games and shareware.

Computers have usb spots. You can hook game pad/joystick to an usb port.

Yes, and it costs money. You say its so expensive to buy accessories for a console. If you're buying gamepads and joysticks for your PC, that's an accessory cost too. I hope that point has finally made it across.

Okay, let's see you prove me wrong.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/3d...at-ubisoft

http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/ste...360-490089

http://www.bloodygoodhorror.com/bgh/blog...ill-follow

That was only the first few links google had to offer.

But not to PS 3 or 360 because of the whole fact of you know, them not supporting it. It'll come to next gen consoles though but not to these.

See links above. Is it built into the systems now? No. but they'll implement it, just like you'll need to for your PC.

Most modern games though, do have automatic optimization based on computer performance and even my mother knows how to download an update driver to graphics card. If you don't know that, you can get a software that does it for you, same with almost every aspect in your computer updating..

Yeah, I agree with you. My point was the potential for an incompatiblity exists. You cannot deny that, it's a simple fact.

If you buy a modern pc as I've mentioned, it'll stay in tune for at least 4 or so years, where areas 360 and PS 3 are going to be oudated in a year..

Well apparently Sony has a 10 year plan for the PS3 though I don't think it'll last that long. The 360 has been out since November 22, 2005. Not too far away from 4 years I'd say...and a new console hasn't even been announced. Seeing as how the hardware is still turning out awesome looking games, and getting better all the time, I'd consider it in tune.

Of course it won't run on BEST quality but if you want, by then you can buy that new graphics card that's still going to be cheaper than buying the next entire console that comes.

Yes, about half the cost for the entire console if its a significant enough upgrade. And the upgrade after that might cost you to the next console, and so on and so forth. Unless you game significantly the upgrades can become too costly to be rational. I admit that if you buy a lot of new games, the upgrade route is probably cheaper. But I buy maybe ten games a year, all of them usually the games that push graphics and sound. I know I don't need upgrades for them on my console.

Not nearly as much as Play Station 4 I can tell you that.

While I doubt there will be a PS4, I disagree. Because you pay the $200 for that one upgrade. How much will the other upgrades down the line cost? Consoles pushed their release limit at $600, the PS3 sold poorly. And Blu-Ray tech will be even cheaper in the future so I'd expect $400-$500 to be the newest console drop point, unless a new expensive tech is implemented. So you pay that $200 for the one upgrade, and if you need more that can run $200+, or cheaper of course, but when I buy a console I know I'm getting the most up to date console that will play the next gen's worth of games, now or five years from now, without any upgrades.

Unless you buy a shitty card, of course it will power up. My old customized computer ran most of the (Then) modern games even though it was over 5 years old.

But maybe someone doesn't have the money to buy a PC, and all the top end things for it. Maybe the different between a $1000 PC (before you buy the quality games and accessories) and the $600 for a console (with quality games and accessories) makes a big difference to the people who don't have the income.

Entirely wrong mindset. You get a game based on your PC, not PC based on a game..

Yes, and if your PC can't play the game you want?

What OS do you use, 98??! Besides, blue screen wasn't the death, it was the red screen of death. .

Yeah, because we know 98 was the most flawed windows OS, and every one since has been without flaw. I've seen, along with countless others, blue screen (and complete stop of functions) from PCs...which are usually a bit more pricey to repair or out right replace.

Name me something 360 does that my PC can't.

I can name over twenty things my PC can do that 360 can't.

This right here is the reason this will be my last post on this topic. You are not even willing to entertain the fact that consoles have their own benefits for certain people. You are so absorbed in the fact that consoles have implemented a lot of PC features but are not full function PCs. I don't care what your PC can do and my 360 can't. I have my 360 for games. I enjoy that it can play movies, music, photos, etc. But I purchased it for games. And one thing I enjoy about my 360 is that I never have to look at game specs to see if they'll work for me. Ever.

And you call the 360 and PS3 "PC wanna-be's" and yet the Nintendo has built in Wi-Fi, memory, an internet browser, photo editor, most of the things the 360 and PS3 have. But because it uses a different input, a motion controller, that somehow makes Wii, un-pc like. And most of all it's clear that Nintendo can do no wrong because of your opinion of them. Nintendo Wii is fun, but there has been no game I've played on it that I've found to be revolutionary. You've talked up Wii Fit so much, and it's fun, it's got some cool mini games and interesting techniques, but outside of the mini-games you can do all those things without paying the $90 for the game and pad.

I like Xbox, I admit it's not perfect, and that other systems work better for other people. I'm not going to push my system on them. I've acknowledged that the PC has it's benefits, but I still don't believe it's the end all be all game device. Just because your PC can do 20 things my Xbox can't, dosen't make it a better game device, it just makes it useful for other things.

The topic came to what game system should he get? When it comes to gaming, for the money, I still say 360 is the way to go if Wii is out of the picture. If you want to buy a top of the line PC to play the latest and greatest games, go for it. But if your current PC is working for you, and you want a console, it's a good direction to go.