12-22-2006, 09:15 AM
senjuro Wrote:Honestly, if people have such a big deal with the sacred (though chronologically misplaced) aspects of Christmas, they shouldn't bother themselves by celebrating it or partaking in any of it. Seems kind of hypocritical to revel in a holiday's rampant capitalism and abundant good will etc. only to bitch about the actual root of the holiday.
[quote=Santa is in no way connected with religion.
You might want to double-check that. He is. Here's a hint: He's a SAINT.
What does it matter what his connection is when his most central trait is his charity and generosity? Certainly that particular trait is not Christian-specific.
Quote:Strange that many wouldn't see the other side of the coin. Did it ever occur to any that maybe Christians are supressing others?
Heh, careful saying things like that. Not every Christian on the planet is utterly convinced that their religion is the right one and that everyone should be converted to have their souls saved.
I'm all about people publicly celebrating their religions if they want to. The issue here is this: yeah, okay, take Christmas carols off the radio and take down signs with words related to the sacred aspect of Christmas and you won't get any social outrage at all; rather, you get low rumblings of disapproval from the old types who have a problem with it.
However, if you see people trying to block other faiths from celebrating their holidays, there's an explosion of social outrage from all sides with all kinds of groups, including Christians, supporting their rights to freely express themselves.
What this comes down to is basically that it's okay to walk all over Christianity because it happens to be the majority of the population in North American. But as soon as your foot slips and you step on Islam or Judaism, you've committed a sin against the universe and everyone just gangbangs on you.
Mmmmm, holiday hypocrisy.[/quote]
I want to see a reply to this. Senjuro make such complete sense in the above post.
I might be the only non-christian who celebrates Christmas. I may not believe in an all powerful god, but there are a lot of good things to christianity.
Anyone can say and do what they want christianity because it is the majority. Senj is right. Start demanding that the minora be taken down, and you are labeled as a Nazi. Demand that the cross be taken down, you are labled as someone who "just wants to preserve the rights of the little people"...
A load of bull! It's an agenda to suppress christians.
By the way, Merry Christmas everyone! I might not get a chance to say it on Christmas day, because I may not be able to bring my laptop to NY.
On a side note, explain how not wanting Christ to be taken out of Christmas is trouncing on the rights of others.
