Digiartists' Domain Community!
To fail or not to fail: a teacher's perspective - Printable Version

+- Digiartists' Domain Community! (https://digiartistsdomain.org/phpboard)
+-- Forum: The Lobby (https://digiartistsdomain.org/phpboard/forumdisplay.php?fid=50)
+--- Forum: General Chat (https://digiartistsdomain.org/phpboard/forumdisplay.php?fid=2)
+---- Forum: Polls (https://digiartistsdomain.org/phpboard/forumdisplay.php?fid=11)
+---- Thread: To fail or not to fail: a teacher's perspective (/showthread.php?tid=7930)



To fail or not to fail: a teacher's perspective - senjuro - 11-28-2008

Hey,

To those of you who don't know, I'm a recently appointed university professor of music. Studies in a music faculty are a little different than most other faculties: each student spends an hour with a private voice teacher each week on their applied instrument. In my case, I teach voice and I have eight students aged 18-21.

One of my students has been a serious problem since day one. It was clear to me right from the start, even before he said it, that he has a learning disability. Which is fine, I have no problem with people with learning challenges. What I DO have a problem with, is people who are downright fucking lazy and do nothing but make flimsy excuses for why they don't have their work done.

At the beginning of the semester, I made it clear what I expected from my students: 1. a new piece of music every week, rehearsed with their collaborative pianist and ready to go at their weekly lesson. 2. a word-for-word translation of any non-English works at the beginning of the lesson.

Two things. That's it. No papers. No abstracts. No bibliographies. No dioramas. Just to know their music and have a translation handy.

Did the other seven of my students have trouble fulfilling these requirements? Not at all. Hence me not being able to understand why he never had it together. Given that anyone can learn music through simple repitition, and anyone with library or internet access can look up words to translate anything, I've been flummoxed time and again as to why he continually shows up to his lessons unprepared.

Given that his tasks regard no actual learning, a "learning disability" doesn't really excuse him from not having work done. Not like that stops him from trying to make up excuses on the spot and further waste my time.

I sent out a strongly worded e-mail to my students two weeks ago, reminding them of the criteria I had set out at the beginning of the year. And what happens today? He comes WITHOUT A TRANSLATION. AGAIN!!! I couldn't even believe it. And did he try to make up excuses? You fucking bet your sweet bippy he did!

So now here I am, time to evaluate him, with nothing but frustration and poor work ethic behind me. It's clear that a university environment is not a good fit for him at all. He just doesn't have what it takes to perform well. So, should I artificially lower his grade so that he fails out, eventually saving him a lot of money? Or should I give him the very low, but still passing grade he deserves but will ultimately do nothing for him?


RE: To fail or not to fail: a teacher's perspective - Kurtz - 11-28-2008

If he's not willing to try and make a single effort, and blurt out excuses rather then get his head down like the seven others, then I believe his mark shouldn't even be anywhere near a 'pass' mark. The 'learning disability' is an excuse a lot of people use; it doesn't cover his sorry ass from not bringing in a translation.

If he's unprepared, not doing the work set out for him and generically being lazy, the pass mark would be like a dream for him. My thought is mark him on any work he's already currently done (if any, that is), and if his mark barely scrapes over a pass, only then would it be alright to lower his grade so that he fails. Might be harsh, but if he doesn't want to put the work into it and break a sweat for once like the other seven, he doesn't belong there.


RE: To fail or not to fail: a teacher's perspective - Bee - 11-28-2008

To put it blunty, Senjy, FAIL HIS ASS.

And pray he comes to you asking why.


RE: To fail or not to fail: a teacher's perspective - Crim - 11-28-2008

Make him sightread, if he can sight read, let him pass. If not, give him a "QQQ Deluxe"


RE: To fail or not to fail: a teacher's perspective - Kundral - 11-28-2008

FAIL HIM!!!!!!

If he is so lazy not to bring a translation then he does not even deserve to be in colage.

How easy is it to brong a translation? Just go to google and search the word translator and the first link is a good one. Dont have a computer? Let him borrow yours under a watchful eye. Or send them to a damn library.


RE: To fail or not to fail: a teacher's perspective - Wisemon - 11-29-2008

I hope I'm not too late on this poll. Give him the grade he deserves, even if it isn't failing, because if it's found that you graded with bias, especially negative bias on a student with a learning disability, Senjuro, you could get in a lot of trouble. Besides, if you fail him, you might have to (try to) teach him again.


RE: To fail or not to fail: a teacher's perspective - Crim - 11-29-2008

(Spam) See that there? This is why we are allowed to exist in this man's presence? *archangeling complete*


RE: To fail or not to fail: a teacher's perspective - blueeyedgabulvo0o - 12-02-2008

I would consider and write a letter to the college guidance counslor or someone with the ability to ask if he has something first prior to even giving a grade. I wouldn't pass nor fail him unless I had all that information.


RE: To fail or not to fail: a teacher's perspective - tigerlily - 12-03-2008

Well he should be more responsible, a person even with a learning disability it would be alittle more smarter if he has ask you some problems that he needed to work on. But, since he hasn't even mention it and didn't work on the project like he's supposed to so it's definite fail for him.

I learn my lesson for being lazy and not to do my work but, after I learned my lesson I learned I have to get it done fast and do it when I planned to do earlier(more organized).

Another thing is you could ask his teachers or parents to see if he really has a learning disability or to check if he does well in his classes it's a great way to learn what your students capable of.